Lesson 7 Phone a Friend About Flat Earth
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Flat Earth Sunrise and Sunset

In Flat Earth theory, the Sun works something like a giant spotlight shining down on a stationary Flat Earth. When it comes to Globe Earth theory, the Earth is traveling around the Sun at roughly 60,000 miles per hour as it spins one full revolution per day.

Checking Sun Position

Atlantic Sunrise
Lake Michigan Sunrise
If the two above Sunrise photos were taken on the same day at nearly the exact same moment with a longitudinal difference of 490 miles, one over the Atlantic Ocean and the other over Lake Michigan, then in a Flat Earth model the Sun must be very near Earth to explain the differences in the Sun’s distance from the horizon, or else the Sun travels over and under the Earth in every 24-hour period. With a Globe Earth model, the difference is explained by the rotational position (longitudinal position) of the location at which each photo was taken.
Of course, these are only photos and there’s not really anything to identify their true locations or date and time taken. So, how then can we trust these photos? Basically, we can’t really know for sure because they could have been taken at the same location at different times or even on different days. Only the photographer(s) know for sure. So, what’s the solution?
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The Solution and Experiment?
Phone a Friend!

Photo credit: hotpot
To remedy the problem of trusting photos online, you simply phone a friend or relative and ask them about the position of the Sun. When doing this experiment, it is critical that the person lives east or west of you by at least 500 miles or more in order to easily be able to notice any difference in their Sun view position. The north or south direction from you is not real important, but the east or west is.
Using a Globe Earth model, the Sun moves across the sky about 7 degrees every 30 minutes, or about 7 degrees for every 500 miles you travel east or west. So, if you phone a friend as the Sun still sits on your horizon as it sets, your friend’s Sun view should be 7 degrees up for every 500 miles west of you that they are located. However, if your friend is east of you then their Sun view will already be 7 degrees below the horizon. And the opposite is true for Sunrise. But can we take our friend’s word as true, is this good enough?

Technology Comes in Handy when Testing for a Flat Earth!

This is where technology comes in handy. If you want very strong evidence of the current position of the Sun from your friend’s perspective, make a face-to-face video call to them, and then have them position the phone so that the Sun and horizon are showing in the background while you can see their face as they talk to you. This will offer you absolute confirmation of the Sun’s position at their location at that moment.
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Video: Seasons In The Flat Earth Sun

The video below shows a working model of the Sun’s daily path as stated in one of the Flat Earth theories. The model has the Sun and moon circling above the Flat Earth. For this model it would be best seen in the dark with a light bulb in place of the Sun to accurately depict its result.
Video: Functional Flat Earth Sun Model
Video credit: AFP TV
There are a couple of Flat Earth models regarding the Sun’s movement. The first is that the Sun rises and moves across the sky until it sets and travels under the Earth until it makes it around and rises again the next day. The other Flat Earth theory is that the Sun shines down on Earth like a giant spotlight and travels in a circle over the land as seen in the above video. Based upon the line-of-sight to the Sun in the Flat Earth Sun-circuit working model shown in the video above, it would not be possible for the Sun to ever drop below the horizon. You can see all three Flat Earth maps in Lesson 1 - Maps and Flat Earth to see how the Sun would need to circle over the land in each of them.)

Globe Earth Sun Model

Below are two videos, one is taken at the north pole and the other is taken the south pole, with each being done in the summer of its hemisphere. On a Globe Earth model, this means that the videos would have been taken at opposite times of the year. When one of the locations had the Sun travel in a 360-degree circle path over the horizon for many days, the other was in a twilight like winter that lasted many days with the Sun never coming above the horizon during that period.
Video: Arctic North Pole Summer Sun

Video: Antarctic South Pole Summer Sun

With Globe Earth, there’s only one model and in it the Sun will set roughly an hour later for each 1000 miles that you travel westward, but this varies depending upon your latitude. Globe Earth theory contends that the Earth spins about 1000 miles per hour, so if you watch the Sun pass across the sky it will move about 15 degrees per hour. Globe Earth theory also contends that the Earth spins on an axis that is angled about 23.5 degrees relative to the plane of its path around the Sun, and this accounts for the seasons throughout the year. As per the two videos above at the height of summer the Sun never actually goes over head, instead it travels all around the horizon and never goes higher in the sky than that at Earth’s poles.
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Summary of Lesson 7
We know we have seasons, and we know the Sun appears to rise and set. When examining these models and phoning a friend, which of these various theories best explains what you witness every day throughout the year regarding the Sun’s position throughout any one day? Do you feel that you can prove either Flat Earth or Globe Earth with this information?
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